I'm watching Larry King Live right now. Larry has several of Time's Top Evangelical Christians on his show: The LaHayes, Franklin Graham, TD Jakes, and Brian McLaren.
Wow, the LaHayes are totally indoctrinated in right wing philosophy (big surprise)
TD Jakes and Brian seem to be on the same page. Brian is calling for Christians to hold the president accountable for issues like- like concern and care for the poor, care for the environment, and accountable for being a peace maker.
This raises the issues of how polarized Christianity seems. Brian raises legitmate questions that Christians ought to ask but I can just hear a lot of folks saying, "hhhmmm, just another liberal..."
Now they are going to the topic of gay marriage. LaHayes: "we'd like to see children raised by a normal father and mother." "We love homosexuals, we want to HELP them." (help them what?)
Franklin: "God created sex to enjoy. He gave sex as a gift to a man and woman. God is gonna judge sin, but Jesus will come to save and forgive sin. There are millions of gays, and he loves them, but he will judge them."
Jakes: "Redemption is the choice. We have a right to accept Jesus in our life, no matter the sin."
McLaren: "Jesus came to forgive our sins and RECONCILE one another. The question we should be asking is HOW do we reconcile with one another in the midst of disagreement?"
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
LaHayes- Schools should not teach anything that is ANTI-GOD, nor anything that is theory- such as Evolution. We should be able to and ought to say "Under God" in the pledge of allegiance.
Ok, it's a commercial. This is fairly humorous. We are living in a post 911 world, we're at war, a tsunami has decimated countries and we're talking about whether we can/cannot, should/should not say "Under God" in the pledge of allegiance. Wow.
I think Larry King likes Brian. I can tell it in the way he says BRIIIIAN MCLAREN!
Q: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN ALL THE BAD THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED: SUCH AS 911/TSUNAMIS AND SUCH.
LaHayes: The Fall, part of the plan, we're heading toward the end of the age.
Graham: was in s. asia, did God judge these countries in some way? we all will stand someday and account for our lives in front of God. We must accept Jesus into our lives.
Jakes: Christians need to recognize the things they are for and stand in one voice- instead of the polarization we face now. All sins are the same in size.
A GAY MAN HAS CALLE AND ASKED IF JESUS HAS CALLED US TO LOVE
McLaren: Evangelicals need to start making friends with folks who are different, especially someone who is gay- and not to change them but to really get to know them as a person.
LaHayes: Would you rather have your child raised by two men or two women? What's wrong with a good wholesome family? (can a gay couple have a wholesome life?)
No they cannot.
WHAT WAS 911 ABOUT?
Franklin: We need to be in prayer right now, because we are at war. We might be attacked again and we have to be ready. The god of this age is Satan.
COMMERCIAL BREAK
COULD YOU SUPPORT JOE LIEBERMAN- A DEVOUT JEW?
LaHaye: Yes
CALLER: JAKES AND MCLAREN SEEM TO BE THE MOST OPEN MINDED OF THE EVANGELICALS.
CALLER: LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS- IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE'LL HAVE A LEADER THAT WILL UNITE THE WORLD?
Graham: Yes, the antichrist is coming who will unite the world. He will fight God, fight Jesus.
Jakes: We are confusing predestination with foreknowledge. Our God already knows the end.
LaHayes: We're gonna have a one world religion, one world gov't. God will give us an opportunity to accept Christ again at the end. The UN will fail because they exclude God.
No response allowed for McLaren. That is the second time that Brian was not called on for an opinion. Let me speculate his answer: we should be more concerned as Christians with living out Christ's call to discipleship and work towards creating the Kingdom of God now- a Kingdom where all people's needs are met, where we are good stewards, and strive to be peacemakers.
CALLER- STEM CELL TRANSPLANTS?
Brian: huge challenge that we face. It's not helpful for Christians to shut out any diaglog for it, and it's also not helpful to jump into accepting it without looking at who profits from it.
MCLAREN'S LETTER TO PRES. BUSH PRIOR TO 911
Brian: we're grateful for the elections and proud of the iraqi people. Many Christians are still raising questions about America's role in the world and war.
THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.
3 comments:
thanks for speaking on brian's behalf. i am sure brian is grateful as well. we need to be in dialogue on what brian might have said and not shut out one show participant even if we like him and call him Briiiian.
&:~D
i had oh such a witty response/comment, but for some reason it never took. oh well, just laugh and say, that funny gavin..
dude, i've written two comments but they keep getting erased.. i will now have to consider our friendship.. &:~P
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